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[主板] 打人家X670E主板最近更新BIOS挺快啊

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发表于 2023-4-23 13:33 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 momoka 于 2023-4-23 13:34 编辑
pun33981 发表于 2023-4-23 13:22
X670EE不是第二个PCIE插了就变成8X+8X么
剩下的8条给了M2_1和内存边上的那玩意
说的浪费是啥意思


第二个pcie插槽仅支持4X模式,不支持8X模式,并且也无法在这个插槽上实现4+4模式。

因为另外4X已经强制分给主板上唯一一条22110的M2了。

也就是只要第二个pcie,或者主板上唯一一条22100里,有任意一个设备装上了,显卡就只能8X

这个扩展性,和比它少一个pch的B650E-E没啥区别。



发表于 2023-4-23 13:36 | 显示全部楼层
momoka 发表于 2023-4-23 13:33
第二个pcie插槽仅支持4X模式,不支持8X模式,并且也无法在这个插槽上实现4+4模式。

因为另外4X已经强制 ...

原来是这样
发表于 2023-4-23 13:40 | 显示全部楼层
BFG9K 发表于 2023-4-22 12:40
我说reddit板块和国内有人的asus主板烧U不等于只有asus主板烧U啊,你这个逻辑是真的让人捉急。

另外别的 ...

难道不是因为别的板厂的板子都没什么人买吗?国内10片AM5至少7片ASUS吧
发表于 2023-4-23 14:10 | 显示全部楼层
叶叶子1205 发表于 2023-4-23 13:40
难道不是因为别的板厂的板子都没什么人买吗?国内10片AM5至少7片ASUS吧  ...

所以因为ASUS卖得多ASUS X670烧X3D就很合理吗?
发表于 2023-4-23 14:20 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-22 12:18
楼上非要扯隔壁NGA论坛,当然其他牌子出问题,这些人不会说的


顺便求一下enjoy哥MSI板子烧X3D的链接在哪里?

Reddit AMD板块今天该事件持续发酵中,目前统计出来都是ASUS X670烧了X3D,还没有其他品牌的AM5主板烧X3D的案例,求ENJOY哥给出别的品牌的AM5主板烧X3D的案例啊
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 16:28 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ykdo 于 2023-4-23 16:36 编辑
saokao 发表于 2023-4-23 12:20
没问题啊,我就插了个万兆网卡正常用。


只插一个显卡的时候是可以的
发表于 2023-4-23 16:31 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
叶叶子1205 发表于 2023-4-23 13:40
难道不是因为别的板厂的板子都没什么人买吗?国内10片AM5至少7片ASUS吧  ...

这你说错了,国内10片am5, 一半是屏蔽。
发表于 2023-4-23 16:41 | 显示全部楼层
inSeek 发表于 2023-4-22 16:16
X670EE受害者在此。

TMD到手才发现这X670,白浪费一条4.0 4x 和 2个SATA/3.0 2x

关键是说明书乱写,我当时差点就买了x670ee了
还好买的proart
发表于 2023-4-23 19:24 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
LambdaDelta 发表于 2023-4-23 16:41
关键是说明书乱写,我当时差点就买了x670ee了
还好买的proart

官网上B650 proart了,我准备换这个了

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/proart/proart-b650-creator/

发表于 2023-4-23 19:36 | 显示全部楼层
BFG9K 发表于 2023-4-23 19:24
官网上B650 proart了,我准备换这个了

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/pro ...

阔以,这个多个x4,比x670的x2实用很多
发表于 2023-4-23 20:11 | 显示全部楼层
BFG9K 发表于 2023-4-23 19:24
官网上B650 proart了,我准备换这个了

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/pro ...

这板子很早就挂出来了,但是大陆没得卖
发表于 2023-4-23 20:56 | 显示全部楼层
有没有更新1202BIOS的大哥来说说咋样
发表于 2023-4-23 20:59 | 显示全部楼层
rich0428 发表于 2023-4-22 06:03
再不更新CPU都要死光了吧
这两天又发生X3D烧U , 底座黑了CPU都膨胀了
从发售X670到现在不管是超RAM还是超CP ...

OP更新了,全默认使用,EXPO内存还在主板QVL列表里,电脑空载时他走了,回去了电脑就挂了

UPDATE:

AMD was quick to respond and provide a pre-paid shipping label for the RMA. I also heard from ASUS a little latter, who also offered replacements. It just came a little to late as to reduce downtime and for some stellar analysis content I had already sent them off to Steve. 🙏 Bless. No shade to ASUS though, It's only been 1 business day and this occurred end of week. Both AMD and ASUS have done a fantastic job in trying to make this right. I do feel for AMD and ASUS here as they did request that the parts be sent to them. It would have been good to have them get it first to provide an official solution quicker. Sorry guys.

Here are some images I have taken with magnifiers highlighting the damage: https://photos.app.goo.gl/tUKbc3tDWL6B6qqZ9

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Here is the full system: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bdXJhk

As for timeline and some additional information...

7600X has been running without issue since mid February.

7800X3D was installed and running 24/7 since the date of purchased (Sunday, 04/16/23)

No CPU overclocking, just memory via the EXPO 1 profile.

F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR is on the QVL.

No issues with temps or performance to date.

Have been gaming a decent amount on the system. Got 30% gains in ARMA 3 (Very CPU heavy game), MSFS both VR (2x framerate from 30FPS -> 60FPS) and non-VR (30FPS with no FPS improvement over 7600X), and various other games both VR and non-VR. CoD, Hunt Showdown, Rocket League & Breachers to name a few.

Returned home after leaving my system in a typical idle state with nothing strenuous running (I don't dismiss the fact that a background task could have been running) to the system unable to POST and a QCode of 00. Of which is typically associated with no CPU.

The AIO was hella toasty upon removal, will burn you hot, specifically the bracket. I speculate the short to have caused the heat. Especially if it continued to short while on. No form of protection was tripped.

The pins on the LGA do look intact, just recessed and slightly charred.

I did attempt to update the BIOS to 1101 from 0922 during installation, however due to issues with EXPO profiles being unstable and not POSTing, I returned to 0922. 1101 states "Improve system performance and stabilize AMD Ryzen 7000 X3D series processors", not that the your CPU and MOBO die and become murder and mystery.

The last point is my main suspicion, and that the BIOS update needs to be made mandatory. The sad part is, if you do that EXPO profiles will not work for this QVL memory, but it is better than frying everything. This is speculation. I think it is reasonable to think that not updating ones BIOS should not do this. Sure recommended, but not necessary. If so, it might be time for the industry to do BIOS updates without a CPU, with versions only supporting a qualified list.

My memory, F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR is on the QVL. But as previously mentioned, would not POST with the EXPO profile from the Ryzen X3D "stabilizing" BIOS version. After reading that others were just reverting to older versions when EXPO wasn't working claiming instability, I did the same. I believe these posts were prior/not on X3D processors.

EDIT: After speaking with ASUS, it was brought to my attention that this technically isn't warrantied with AMD due to the use of EXPO. Which was news to me. The board is though through ASUS. I have always thought of EXPO/XMP as "verified/approved" settings for memory, and not so much an overclock. Especially since the QVL reflects that. This is not the case, and in fact the rated settings also vary by CPU, so just because the QVL says 6000/30-38-38-96, does not mean that it should work across CPUs. With this in mind, as I state above, I purposely went back to a BIOS version which POSTed with EXPO which was not an approved version for X3D series CPUs and chalked this up to BIOS instability rather than a potential intention by the BIOS engineers. So for people on a similar build, I'd say just make sure to update your BIOS and forgo EXPO for the time being until we know things are stable and working as intended. The cause here is still speculative, however may be a good safety measure to take.

I did spend a few minutes looking for the pinout of AM5 to see if where it is damaged is associated with the memory controller. I couldn't easily find anything. I will now leave the investigation and speculation to the professionals 😉.

I did get the same hardware so wish me luck 😬. I am up and running with the updated BIOS version and I ain't touching any memory timings for the time being. Nothing else was damaged. As to why the same parts? There just isn't enough competition or aesthetically as pleasing hardware IMO. I still don't get in a world of RGB, manufacturers using non-neutral colors on products. I'm looking at you MSI with that gold MOBO... Remember when Corsair had a yellow logo on RGB products 🤮?

Anywho, thanks for the support folks! Let's see how this unfolds.
发表于 2023-4-23 23:31 | 显示全部楼层
BFG9K 发表于 2023-4-23 20:59
OP更新了,全默认使用,EXPO内存还在主板QVL列表里,电脑空载时他走了,回去了电脑就挂了

...

After speaking with ASUS, it was brought to my attention that this technically isn't warrantied with AMD due to the use of EXPO.
发表于 2023-4-24 00:19 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
以后玩电脑得7*24小时外部录制?
发表于 2023-4-24 00:52 | 显示全部楼层
LambdaDelta 发表于 2023-4-23 16:41
关键是说明书乱写,我当时差点就买了x670ee了
还好买的proart

反正ASUS让我做了一次SB
粉转路,路转黑
发表于 2023-4-24 00:52 | 显示全部楼层
pun33981 发表于 2023-4-23 13:22
X670EE不是第二个PCIE插了就变成8X+8X么
剩下的8条给了M2_1和内存边上的那玩意
说的浪费是啥意思

你看的不是X670EE吧?
发表于 2023-4-24 00:52 | 显示全部楼层
舒方 发表于 2023-4-23 12:46
确实很奇怪,把第二条改成8x不是刚好吗,为了和hero区分吗。。

就是故意浪费了,为了做区分。去他妈的打人硕
发表于 2023-4-24 01:07 | 显示全部楼层
ykdo 发表于 2023-4-23 16:28
只插一个显卡的时候是可以的

我插了一块显卡,一块 u2 转接卡,一块万兆网卡。
发表于 2023-4-24 14:17 | 显示全部楼层
inSeek 发表于 2023-4-24 00:52
你看的不是X670EE吧?

我是C9E来着 我以为说的X670EE是我那个
发表于 2023-6-21 20:22 | 显示全部楼层
有没有更新了bios后windows激活丢失的,我的B650M wifi怎么更新1616版本后系统激活丢失了,连接微软账号都找不回来,以前几个版本都没问题。新机安装的时候都可以连接微软账号激活。
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