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发表于 2023-4-23 21:10 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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UPDATE:

AMD was quick to respond and provide a pre-paid shipping label for the RMA. I also heard from ASUS a little latter, who also offered replacements. It just came a little to late as to reduce downtime and for some stellar analysis content I had already sent them off to Steve. 🙏 Bless. No shade to ASUS though, It's only been 1 business day and this occurred end of week. Both AMD and ASUS have done a fantastic job in trying to make this right. I do feel for AMD and ASUS here as they did request that the parts be sent to them. It would have been good to have them get it first to provide an official solution quicker. Sorry guys.

Here are some images I have taken with magnifiers highlighting the damage: https://photos.app.goo.gl/tUKbc3tDWL6B6qqZ9

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Here is the full system: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bdXJhk

As for timeline and some additional information...

7600X has been running without issue since mid February.

7800X3D was installed and running 24/7 since the date of purchased (Sunday, 04/16/23)

No CPU overclocking, just memory via the EXPO 1 profile.

F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR is on the QVL.

No issues with temps or performance to date.

Have been gaming a decent amount on the system. Got 30% gains in ARMA 3 (Very CPU heavy game), MSFS both VR (2x framerate from 30FPS -> 60FPS) and non-VR (30FPS with no FPS improvement over 7600X), and various other games both VR and non-VR. CoD, Hunt Showdown, Rocket League & Breachers to name a few.

Returned home after leaving my system in a typical idle state with nothing strenuous running (I don't dismiss the fact that a background task could have been running) to the system unable to POST and a QCode of 00. Of which is typically associated with no CPU.

The AIO was hella toasty upon removal, will burn you hot, specifically the bracket. I speculate the short to have caused the heat. Especially if it continued to short while on. No form of protection was tripped.

The pins on the LGA do look intact, just recessed and slightly charred.

I did attempt to update the BIOS to 1101 from 0922 during installation, however due to issues with EXPO profiles being unstable and not POSTing, I returned to 0922. 1101 states "Improve system performance and stabilize AMD Ryzen 7000 X3D series processors", not that the your CPU and MOBO die and become murder and mystery.

The last point is my main suspicion, and that the BIOS update needs to be made mandatory. The sad part is, if you do that EXPO profiles will not work for this QVL memory, but it is better than frying everything. This is speculation. I think it is reasonable to think that not updating ones BIOS should not do this. Sure recommended, but not necessary. If so, it might be time for the industry to do BIOS updates without a CPU, with versions only supporting a qualified list.

My memory, F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR is on the QVL. But as previously mentioned, would not POST with the EXPO profile from the Ryzen X3D "stabilizing" BIOS version. After reading that others were just reverting to older versions when EXPO wasn't working claiming instability, I did the same. I believe these posts were prior/not on X3D processors.

EDIT: After speaking with ASUS, it was brought to my attention that this technically isn't warrantied with AMD due to the use of EXPO. Which was news to me. The board is though through ASUS. I have always thought of EXPO/XMP as "verified/approved" settings for memory, and not so much an overclock. Especially since the QVL reflects that. This is not the case, and in fact the rated settings also vary by CPU, so just because the QVL says 6000/30-38-38-96, does not mean that it should work across CPUs. With this in mind, as I state above, I purposely went back to a BIOS version which POSTed with EXPO which was not an approved version for X3D series CPUs and chalked this up to BIOS instability rather than a potential intention by the BIOS engineers. So for people on a similar build, I'd say just make sure to update your BIOS and forgo EXPO for the time being until we know things are stable and working as intended. The cause here is still speculative, however may be a good safety measure to take.

I did spend a few minutes looking for the pinout of AM5 to see if where it is damaged is associated with the memory controller. I couldn't easily find anything. I will now leave the investigation and speculation to the professionals 😉.

I did get the same hardware so wish me luck 😬. I am up and running with the updated BIOS version and I ain't touching any memory timings for the time being. Nothing else was damaged. As to why the same parts? There just isn't enough competition or aesthetically as pleasing hardware IMO. I still don't get in a world of RGB, manufacturers using non-neutral colors on products. I'm looking at you MSI with that gold MOBO... Remember when Corsair had a yellow logo on RGB products 🤮?

Anywho, thanks for the support folks! Let's see how this unfolds.


链接:https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/12tlk7s/comment/jhbfh8y/

大致总结:

OP的系统是默认,未进行任何CPU超频

OP的电脑内存是F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR,在主板的QCL列表内,OP仅仅开启了EXPO

OP尝试过更新BIOS到1101, 但是更新后出现EXPO开启后不稳定和开机无法POST的情况,所以OP又把BIOS降级回了0922

OP 4.16拿到CPU后直至出事前一直在正常使用78X3D玩游戏,电脑也没有关机,运行游戏性能正常

78X3D暴毙出现于某天OP不玩游戏后,电脑空载的情况下,OP出门了,回来发现电脑暴毙,系统无法POST,QCode显示00



发表于 2023-4-23 21:21 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
烧u老传统了,没得洗。
紧急下架老bios,就是欲盖弥彰。
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 21:25 | 显示全部楼层
yoloh 发表于 2023-4-23 21:21
烧u老传统了,没得洗。
紧急下架老bios,就是欲盖弥彰。

最搞笑的是ASUS官方和这个OP沟通后现在在甩锅给内存,说是就算在QVL的内存也不一定保证能稳定运行

然而OP根本不吃这一套,OP还是认为是0922版BIOS把U给烧了

After speaking with ASUS, it was brought to my attention that this technically isn't warrantied with AMD due to the use of EXPO. Which was news to me. The board is though through ASUS. I have always thought of EXPO/XMP as "verified/approved" settings for memory, and not so much an overclock. Especially since the QVL reflects that. This is not the case, and in fact the rated settings also vary by CPU, so just because the QVL says 6000/30-38-38-96, does not mean that it should work across CPUs. With this in mind, as I state above, I purposely went back to a BIOS version which POSTed with EXPO which was not an approved version for X3D series CPUs and chalked this up to BIOS instability rather than a potential intention by the BIOS engineers. So for people on a similar build, I'd say just make sure to update your BIOS and forgo EXPO for the time being until we know things are stable and working as intended. The cause here is still speculative, however may be a good safety measure to take.
发表于 2023-4-23 21:27 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 twfox 于 2023-4-23 21:28 编辑

看的想笑 漏洞百出 0922 上古2月的BIOS 大过年的时候我都更新到0925了;7800X3D 4月推出, 不知道什么样的玩家会选择0922使用X3D处理器。能点亮?这也就算了,回来都U烧毁了 还能看到主板显示00 ,敢情都烧了还在通电呢主板正常识别呢
发表于 2023-4-23 21:28 | 显示全部楼层
加压1.15超到5.4是不是死的更快 ?
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 21:32 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 21:27
看的想笑 漏洞百出 0922 上古2月的BIOS 大过年的时候我都更新到0925了;7800X3D 4月推出, 不知道什么样的 ...

enjoy哥速去reddit和OP大战吧!

不过我要提醒一下enjoy哥,人家OP是0922更新1101的BIOS之后出现EXPO不稳定,没办法POST的情况才退回到0922的

而且这种用法不是你钦定的ROG群里的小伙伴的用法么?你不是说你群里的小伙伴都是AM5主板新老BIOS来回用没影响的么?怎么人家苦主用老BIOS带78X3D就不行了?

是不是不在你们群里就不让用老BIOS带新U了啊?

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另外啊,OP出了个门回家发现主板QCode一直显示00 OP才意识到出问题的,这才发现CPU烧了,但enjoy哥这就隔空断案OP这处描述是编的,我只能说还是enjoy哥比较客观,建议你速去reddit和OP对质
发表于 2023-4-23 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
BFG9K 发表于 2023-4-23 21:32
enjoy哥速去reddit和OP大战吧!

不过我要提醒一下enjoy哥,人家OP是0922更新1101的BIOS之后出现EXPO不稳 ...

你搁着说原贴有啥用,别人立场摆在这呢不管什么情况都不是主板的锅
发表于 2023-4-23 21:42 | 显示全部楼层
好笑,有什么好对峙的 ,有问题解决问题就是,人家使用也确实出问题了,我看人家也是奔着解决问题的态度去了不像什么传回国内,就搞得拿到什么宝贝样的,四处奔走相告,AMD和ASUS在国外是没保修吗?还是新蛋给拒保了?

而且这位玩家很有特点:7800X3D was installed and running 24/7 since the date of purchased (Sunday, 04/16/23)

这是指16号起一直不关机吗?出门也是待机状态?直到烧毁还显示了00
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 21:42 | 显示全部楼层
ylangu 发表于 2023-4-23 21:40
你搁着说原贴有啥用,别人立场摆在这呢不管什么情况都不是主板的锅

所以我劝enjoy哥去原帖和OP大战啊,在CHH这里隔空质疑没意义啊
发表于 2023-4-23 21:46 | 显示全部楼层
保持关注,坐等大结局
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 21:46 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 21:42
好笑,有什么好对峙的 ,有问题解决问题就是,人家使用也确实出问题了,我看人家也是奔着解决问题的态度去 ...

ENJOY哥还在孜孜不倦地质疑OP的用法,力图证明OP的用法是多么反常,多么该给烧CPU的情况背锅

反正BIOS更新后不稳定退回到老版本用78X3D是错,电脑不关机一直开着也是错,怎么说都是你用户自己的错啦~~~
发表于 2023-4-23 21:48 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵 这不是挑事是啥,还去原贴大战?有问题解决问题,要不要售后干嘛,奇奇怪怪,怎么感觉出问题的用户不着急,这些看热闹不嫌事大的干着急啊。这售后不就是AMD换U,ASUS换板子就完事了嘛。正好群里有个小伙伴也是X3D不关机使用的,目前一切安好。安啦
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 21:49 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 21:42
好笑,有什么好对峙的 ,有问题解决问题就是,人家使用也确实出问题了,我看人家也是奔着解决问题的态度去 ...

人家在帖子里直接不认可你们ASUS的答复好伐?ASUS甩锅给EXPO,苦主根本不卵你ASUS的答复,一楼直接说ASUS的说法是load of crap

唉,enjoy哥是不是看不懂英文,我看这苦主也不是很配合ASUS,你要不要现在去谴责一下?
发表于 2023-4-23 21:49 | 显示全部楼层
为啥又要一直@我啊,我都是对事不对人,怎么感觉有人是对事又对人啊。既然发出来不就是让讨论的吗?还不允许发表其他观点了?奇奇怪怪,等拒保了再来骂吧
发表于 2023-4-23 21:50 | 显示全部楼层
这贴热闹了
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 21:52 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 21:49
为啥又要一直@我啊,我都是对事不对人,怎么感觉有人是对事又对人啊。既然发出来不就是让讨论的吗?还不允 ...

ENJOY哥不是对人家reddit贴主对事又对人的么?

先是质疑人家用老BIOS是不会用,又是看人家主板还会有QCode是扯谎,最后看不懂英文又脑补人家OP很配合ASUS,谁知道人家OP早就把板U寄给了GN,也不信ASUS官方对接人员的说法

我看enjoy哥你要不还是装死吧,你越说话越给ASUS招黑啊
发表于 2023-4-23 21:52 | 显示全部楼层
一口一个苦主,怎么怎么仗义啊 ,以后论坛出现啥拒保的帖子,希望也多帮帮苦主,人家是真的被拒保了,很苦。

ASUS有没说拒保也没说不管,怎么就比苦主还着急呢?就因为提了个EXPO,INTEL XMP能保修吗?
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 21:55 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 21:52
一口一个苦主,怎么怎么仗义啊 ,以后论坛出现啥拒保的帖子,希望也多帮帮苦主,人家是真的被拒保了,很苦 ...

ENJOY哥这是觉得只关心华硕的产品问题不关注别的品牌的产品问题那就是别有用心的么?

没想到关注ASUS产品的门槛这么高,我还是不配用ASUS啊~~~
发表于 2023-4-23 21:57 | 显示全部楼层
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 22:02 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 21:57
帮帮苦主:伸出援助之手,仗义发帖

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2503539-1-1.html

没想到ENJOY的必杀技居然是这个

我隔着屏幕都能感受到ENJOY哥搜到别的厂商的求助帖并复制粘贴到本贴时嘴角上扬,沾沾自喜的神情

只能说高还是enjoy哥高,这种逻辑思路那可是得小学三年级毕业了才能想到的,我不得不佩服enjoy哥,真是太聪明了!
发表于 2023-4-23 22:04 | 显示全部楼层
为啥cpu烧了主板还能显示00
,不得直接断电或者蓝屏了吗?
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 22:05 | 显示全部楼层
liangxy 发表于 2023-4-23 22:04
为啥cpu烧了主板还能显示00
,不得直接断电或者蓝屏了吗?

你不装CPU主板也显示00

这就是CPU烧了,但是主板没死,主板尝试重启但是没有检测到CPU,就会显示00
发表于 2023-4-23 22:06 | 显示全部楼层
开始站到道德制高点,一口一个苦主,看似伸张正义,实者夹带私货,其他拒保的帖子,回都懒得回,几个在我收集名单里面的ID也消失不见,只要是关于ASUS的马上高举正义大旗开始伸张了。

真是笑死了,看到演不下去了,又开始人身攻击了。这算什么?秀下限,不过CHH现在也就如此气氛
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 22:09 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 22:06
开始站到道德制高点,一口一个苦主,看似伸张正义,实者夹带私货,其他拒保的帖子,回都懒得回,几个在我收 ...

笑了,别的牌子的求助贴里面都是正常谴责的坛友,唯独坛子里只要有一点对ASUS不利的帖子或者言论,你enjoy哥必然第一个跳出来强烈谴责,别的牌子的粉丝里有你这样的么?

你也不看看你自己,就跟个BOT一样,一触发到关键词就框框输出

另外我刚刚评论你的内容哪里人身攻击了?求你解释一下,我都夸你了你怎么还觉得我在人身攻击你啊?
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 22:11 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 22:06
开始站到道德制高点,一口一个苦主,看似伸张正义,实者夹带私货,其他拒保的帖子,回都懒得回,几个在我收 ...

sb.PNG

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请enjoy哥赐教,别的牌子的不满帖子里会出现这样直接质疑用户不会用,直接质疑用户是黑子的评论吗?

这种破事本坛好像只有你干得出来吧?



发表于 2023-4-23 22:12 | 显示全部楼层
BFG9K 发表于 2023-4-23 21:32
enjoy哥速去reddit和OP大战吧!

不过我要提醒一下enjoy哥,人家OP是0922更新1101的BIOS之后出现EXPO不稳 ...

哈哈哈,点艹
发表于 2023-4-23 22:13 | 显示全部楼层
拒保了我肯定也谴责啊,但是都没定论凭啥就直接扣帽子?既然口口声声发出来让正常讨论,为啥不能阐述自己观点?奇奇怪怪,动不动就阴阳怪气真不知道是谁,现在CHH就是这样,分享真材实料的没几个,就靠氛围组。不知道为何没落到如此境地。
发表于 2023-4-23 22:15 | 显示全部楼层
为什么不能质疑,你自己会不会用0922? 为啥我说啥马上就要挑毛病?我又不是圣旨
 楼主| 发表于 2023-4-23 22:15 | 显示全部楼层
twfox 发表于 2023-4-23 22:13
拒保了我肯定也谴责啊,但是都没定论凭啥就直接扣帽子?既然口口声声发出来让正常讨论,为啥不能阐述自己观 ...

所以你enjoy哥给普通用户扣不会用的帽子,扣别人是别的厂商的水军的帽子就很合理吗?

你知不知道你才是破坏正常讨论环境的人啊?

唉,没想到你还好意思说CHH氛围不好,那氛围不就是被你给破坏了的么?
发表于 2023-4-23 22:18 | 显示全部楼层
我破坏啥气氛?我主题都是好好分享,只不过看不惯有些无脑黑的回几个帖子,就被追着喷,怎么滴?我想买什么牌子,还需要考虑你们感受。
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